PDA

Voir la version complète : Toyota says it's no longer profitable in North America


trish07
22/07/2009, 13h20
uesday, July 21, 2009
David Shepardson / The Detroit News


Toyota says it's no longer profitable in North America

Washington -- Toyota's top executive in the United States said Monday the company was reviewing its entire operation here, including whether to close a factory in California and when to open a factory in Mississippi.

In an hour-long interview with reporters at Toyota's Washington office, Yoshimi Inaba said Toyota is not profitable in North America despite cost cutting in the organization, but he said he hopes the company could be profitable in its next fiscal year in North America. Inaba, who is president and chief operating officer of Toyota Motor America and chairman and CEO of Toyota Motor Sales USA, is taking up his responsibilities at a crucial time for the Japanese automaker.

Toyota's sales have fallen 38 percent in the first six months of the year -- to 770,000 cars and trucks from nearly 1.25 million vehicles in the first six months of 2008. U.S. industry auto sales fell 35 percent in the first half of the year.

Among the issues the company is considering in its re-evaluation process is whether to keep open the 25-year-old New United Motor Manufacturing Inc. assembly plant in Fremont, Calif. The plant, which employs 4,700 people, is a joint venture formed with General Motors, but the Detroit automaker recently withdrew from the pact during its stay in bankruptcy court.

"That put us in a very difficult position," Inaba said. "We are carefully evaluating all the options."

He didn't commit to a timetable for a decision on Nummi, but said a decision would be made "quite soon." He said Toyota hadn't received an incentive package from California yet.

The hourly workers at Nummi are represented by the United Auto Workers, and the contract expires next month. Inaba said the UAW contract "is one consideration, but not the single deciding factor."

Inaba noted that California is Toyota's single biggest market in the United States, and closing the factory would negatively impact its image there.

The company also is contemplating what to do with its Mississippi plant. Toyota has completed the structure, but not moved equipment into it or given a date it might open because of the sharp decline in auto sales. It was scheduled to open next year. Toyota has said it may build the Prius in Mississippi, but Inaba said those plans are unclear.

Asked whether Toyota could shelve its Mississippi plant permanently, Inaba said, "I hope not," and added, "I'm not that pessimistic" about its future.

"Toyota is certainly at a crossroads with respect to capacity," said Michael Robinet, vice president of global forecast at CSM Worldwide. "Virtually every manufacturer is stepping back and looking at their capacity."

Inaba refused to rule out layoffs or plant closures at its other North American plants.

Inaba said the company had made mistakes in making too many decisions in Japan, urging more "decentralization" of decision-making.

Because of Toyota's success for the last eight years, there was an attitude among some executives that, "OK, now we have been so successful, we understand the market, so can make a decision there rather than here," Inaba said.

Inaba said the company is listening to the market, and customers "had been a little bit lost."

When asked whether Toyota had become complacent, he said, "Complacent or arrogant -- a lot of people use that -- I don't know," he said, adding that the company had tried to guard against those qualities.

Inaba acknowledged that Toyota vehicles had often lacked "passion" and that the company's vehicles must be "more exciting, more nimble."

"Toyota is a good car but not exciting. Those are the comments we usually (or) always get," Inaba said.

Inaba said he supported the decision of the U.S. government to rescue General Motors Co. and Chrysler Group LLC with $65 billion in loans. "Stepping into Chrysler and GM was a necessary step for the government, for the country," Inaba said.

But he said he hoped the U.S. government would have a "free-market level ground in mind in deciding what to do next."

He also said GM and Chrysler were right to shrink their dealer networks. Toyota, he said, has no plans to expand its dealer network in the U.S.


Toyota says it's no longer profitable in North America | detnews.com | The Detroit News (http://www.detnews.com/article/20090721/AUTO01/907210324/1148/Toyota+says+it+s+no+longer+profitable+in+North+Ame rica)

"Inaba acknowledged that Toyota vehicles had often lacked "passion" and that the company's vehicles must be "more exciting, more nimble."

"Toyota is a good car but not exciting. Those are the comments we usually (or) always get," Inaba said. "

On va se croiser les doigts pour qu'ils y remédient justement....

Zoile
22/07/2009, 13h24
Ca va pas bien dans l'automobile...

"Toyota is a good car but not exciting. Those are the comments we usually (or) always get," Inaba said. "

C'est pas faux.

trish07
22/07/2009, 13h31
Ca va pas bien dans l'automobile...

"Toyota is a good car but not exciting. Those are the comments we usually (or) always get," Inaba said. "

C'est pas faux.
C'est totalement vrai! Depuis le début je dits que ça va leur coûter leur popularité un jour. Ils font de bons véhicules et la seule clientèle qui leur manque c'est les jeunes ou le gens qui aiment vraiment conduire. Là, ils basent leurs ventes sur les matantes et les papis...

Zoile
22/07/2009, 13h32
Ce que d'autres fabricants ont compris....il va falloir un changement majeur.

Axela 06
22/07/2009, 13h45
toyota a pris la place de cadillac pour les char de ti-vieux.........

quand tu dis que la yaris est la plus excitante dans leur gamme , on est loin des Celica, supra, MR2 ou des AE-86.......

trish07
22/07/2009, 13h55
toyota a pris la place de cadillac pour les char de ti-vieux.........

quand tu dis que la yaris est la plus excitante dans leur gamme , on est loin des Celica, supra, MR2 ou des AE-86.......
Tu dis loool...j,aime mon auto, mais de là à dire qu'elle est excitant...NOT!

Ae86 2010????

Zoile
22/07/2009, 13h59
Ils sont assis sur leur fiabilité sans innové dans le type de véhicule pour rejoindre un autre type de client.

trish07
22/07/2009, 14h03
Celica
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w21/patrish_2007/Celica_ra28.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e162/venomisinteg/misc%20pix/CelicaGT4.jpg
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w21/patrish_2007/celica1.jpg

Supra
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w21/patrish_2007/Sanstitre.jpg

MR2
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w21/patrish_2007/1991_ToyotaMR2_6.jpg

Yaris.....

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w21/patrish_2007/30ib6mb.jpg

PierreB
22/07/2009, 14h17
sujet a deplace dans la section autres modeles :P

Axela 06
22/07/2009, 14h46
sujet a deplace dans la section autres modeles :P


done! j'avais pas remarquer.....


trish tu as oublier la AE-86

je sais pas si ils on abandonner, c'étais supposé etre la nouvelle ae-86 trueno JDM

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/betaku/ae86_1.jpg?t=1248288016
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/betaku/ae86_22.jpg
Next! Do you know the famous “AE86? Corolla? Yeeessssss…… Now, this legendary car of the ’80s stopped its production during the early ’90s. It was not that famous that time until several events lead to the rise of this machine to the top. The “AE86? line includes the Toyota Sprinter Trueno and the Toyota Corolla Levin. The most famous trim of these cars was the GT-APEX, carrying 160 PS at a net weight of less than 1000 kg. The cars became famous and was used for motorsports, including drifting and so. But since the car became famous at the time when it stopped its production, it’s now hard to find one or if ever you found one, it’ll probably be expensive to buy a very stock one of the car. Rumors then say that the problem will be solved as Toyota is trying to produce a cheap, RWD (Rear-wheel-drive), lighweight 2-door coupe that has the same veins as the AE86. Cheap, RWD and light weight are exactly the distinguishing characteristics of the legendary AE86. This is just a rumor but we can probably smell the coming of this car, as seen in these pictures:

trish07
22/07/2009, 15h13
sujet a deplace dans la section autres modeles :P


done! j'avais pas remarquer.....


trish tu as oublier la AE-86

je sais pas si ils on abandonner, c'étais supposé etre la nouvelle ae-86 trueno JDM

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/betaku/ae86_1.jpg?t=1248288016
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/betaku/ae86_22.jpg
Next! Do you know the famous “AE86? Corolla? Yeeessssss…… Now, this legendary car of the ’80s stopped its production during the early ’90s. It was not that famous that time until several events lead to the rise of this machine to the top. The “AE86? line includes the Toyota Sprinter Trueno and the Toyota Corolla Levin. The most famous trim of these cars was the GT-APEX, carrying 160 PS at a net weight of less than 1000 kg. The cars became famous and was used for motorsports, including drifting and so. But since the car became famous at the time when it stopped its production, it’s now hard to find one or if ever you found one, it’ll probably be expensive to buy a very stock one of the car. Rumors then say that the problem will be solved as Toyota is trying to produce a cheap, RWD (Rear-wheel-drive), lighweight 2-door coupe that has the same veins as the AE86. Cheap, RWD and light weight are exactly the distinguishing characteristics of the legendary AE86. This is just a rumor but we can probably smell the coming of this car, as seen in these pictures:
Si je me trompe pas, le modèle était produit en collaboration avec Subaru. J'espère qu'ils ne l'abandonnent pas!

Alexandre1982
22/07/2009, 19h40
Ramener la Supra lol... Ca c'est mon char de rêve lol.... Mais X 10 comme tout le monde y se base trop sur une clientèle de mononc et matante lol...

Nova 3 GT
22/07/2009, 21h03
Ouais la Supra avec le 2JZ-GTE twin turbo :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

trish07
22/07/2009, 21h58
Ramener la Supra lol... Ca c'est mon char de rêve lol.... Mais X 10 comme tout le monde y se base trop sur une clientèle de mononc et matante lol...
Moi je dit OUI!!!! Je veux la Supra!!!!!!

Buddy
22/07/2009, 23h05
C'est poche parce que toyota est rendu dans les voitures familliale, il y avait des concepts pour uen nouvelle supra mais cher lexus, dommage car toyota avait le parfait look sport avat mais pu maintenant!

trish07
23/07/2009, 09h32
C'est poche parce que toyota est rendu dans les voitures familliale, il y avait des concepts pour uen nouvelle supra mais cher lexus, dommage car toyota avait le parfait look sport avat mais pu maintenant!
On espère justement que ça les forcera a changer. Je crois qu'ils sont forts et qu'ils pevent réussir de maudites belles choses et être très compétitifs s'ils s'y mettent. S'ils décident de produire des modèles sports, je suis sûre que les autres marques auraient du fil à retordre. Moi en tk, j'adore ma voiture et j'ai rien à reprocher à Toyota, mais un fois mon bail finit, je ne pense pas acheter chez Toyota encore parce que rien ne me plaît....je vais aller voir Sion...(qui est Toyota mais bon...)

Zoile
23/07/2009, 10h13
Si la Supra revient je suis acheteur...... :D

Gotspeed
23/07/2009, 10h14
Le grand retour de la supra et de la celica?:
http://wot.motortrend.com/6235650/auto- ... index.html (http://wot.motortrend.com/6235650/auto-news/jdm-mag-watch-is-this-the-2010-toyota-supra/index.html)
http://jalopnik.com/5180224/2010-toyota ... yota-coupe (http://jalopnik.com/5180224/2010-toyota-celica-name-of-new-subieyota-coupe)

surpra:
http://automotivecenter.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/2010-supra-photos.jpg

Celica:
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/12/2009/03/504x_2010-Toyota-Celica.jpg

Mazda ramenez la RX7...
Honda ramenez la prelude et la CRX.

Alexandre1982
23/07/2009, 18h52
Moi c'est le modèle 94-96 je crois qui me fais tripper.

Slammer
27/07/2009, 08h13
Mazda offre bien des produit avec un plaisir de conduite et ca se vend seulement au Quebec...Toyota reste toujours dans les top des ventes aux states. Alors, faut croire que les chars de p'tit vieux, ca se vend.

Sinon, pour les jeunes, Toyota a la marque Scion.

Zoile
27/07/2009, 08h34
Mazda offre bien des produit avec un plaisir de conduite et ca se vend seulement au Quebec...Toyota reste toujours dans les top des ventes aux states. Alors, faut croire que les chars de p'tit vieux, ca se vend.

Sinon, pour les jeunes, Toyota a la marque Scion.


Sauf que la ca se vend plus....ils doivent faire un changement.

Slammer
28/07/2009, 08h16
Mazda offre bien des produit avec un plaisir de conduite et ca se vend seulement au Quebec...Toyota reste toujours dans les top des ventes aux states. Alors, faut croire que les chars de p'tit vieux, ca se vend.

Sinon, pour les jeunes, Toyota a la marque Scion.


Sauf que la ca se vend plus....ils doivent faire un changement.

au Quebec seulement...au states, les ventes de Mazda sont loin derriere Toyota.

roge
28/07/2009, 13h05
ouin, Toyota perds des ventes mais pas autant que d'autre manufacturiers.

La plupart des gros manufacturiers d'auto se servent de la recession pour completement changer leur maniere de travailler.
- Honda s'est retirer des courses automobiles pour se concentrer sur les voitures propres.

- Toyota a change de CEO au Japon pour remettre un membre de la famille Toyoda (fondateur de Toyota) et ce gars a declare a sa premiere entrevue qu'ils trouvent les nouveaux Toyota poches et cheaps.

- Et Audi qui mets des millions sur du R&D avec objective de fabriquer les meilleurs/fiables voitures avant 2015.

- Hyundai/Kia qui veut etre top 5 au monde et engage donc comme chef de design l'ancien designer d'Audi (celui qui a dessiner la Audi TT) et l'ancien ingenieur en chef de Porsche.

- Mazda qui est maintenant independant de Ford.

tout ca pour dire qu'on va avoir de beau char dans pas long... :mrgreen:

Axela 06
28/07/2009, 13h10
Kia est le seul fabricant au monde pour qui les ventes ont augmenter en 2008 et 2009 ;)

WhiteMS3
28/07/2009, 13h30
ouin, Toyota perds des ventes mais pas autant que d'autre manufacturiers.

La plupart des gros manufacturiers d'auto se servent de la recession pour completement changer leur maniere de travailler.
- Honda s'est retirer des courses automobiles pour se concentrer sur les voitures propres.

- Toyota a change de CEO au Japon pour remettre un membre de la famille Toyoda (fondateur de Toyota) et ce gars a declare a sa premiere entrevue qu'ils trouvent les nouveaux Toyota poches et cheaps.

- Et Audi qui mets des millions sur du R&D avec objective de fabriquer les meilleurs/fiables voitures avant 2015.

- Hyundai/Kia qui veut etre top 5 au monde et engage donc comme chef de design l'ancien designer d'Audi (celui qui a dessiner la Audi TT) et l'ancien ingenieur en chef de Porsche.

- Mazda qui est maintenant independant de Ford.

tout ca pour dire qu'on va avoir de beau char dans pas long... :mrgreen:

toutes des bonnes nouvelles IMO

Buddy
29/07/2009, 16h54
Kia est le seul fabricant au monde pour qui les ventes ont augmenter en 2008 et 2009 ;)

hyundai aussi je pense

Mister_D
29/07/2009, 17h06
Moi c'est le modèle 94-96 je crois qui me fais tripper.
93-98 ! :D

ils en ont produit jusqu'en 2001 au japon :'(

Alexandre1982
29/07/2009, 17h35
Moi c'est le modèle 94-96 je crois qui me fais tripper.
93-98 ! :D

ils en ont produit jusqu'en 2001 au japon :'(


Merci de l'info! J'échangerais ma speed contre une supra drette la lol